Let The Games Begin...

It WILL get nasty!

Some of the recent discussion that can be read at the following site:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/07/the-great-and-growing-divide/

It begins to show the disarray in the ranks of the Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton and their avid dislike of Barack Obama and his messianic rise in the just finished primaries…

I’ll tell you who I am….

I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTER TURNED JOHN MCCAIN SUPPORTER….

SAY NO TO THE OBAMA ISLAMO-FASCIST, ANTI WHITE, ANTI WOMEN, ANTI INTEGRITY, ANTI HONESTY MACHINE.

I AM SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T SELL HER SOUL FOR THE POLITICAL RHETORIC OF A SMART CAMPAIGNER BY THE NAME OF HILLARY CLINTON.

I BET ANYTHING, THAT NOT EVEN SHE WANTS TO VOTE FOR OBAMA. DID YOU NOTICE THAT SHE DID NOT MENTION JOHN MCCAIN IN HER SPEECH? IT IS A CLUE… DON’T BE A FOOL!

You know things are getting bad in cyberland when the all caps response occurs. And they are getting bad.

Atdnext came to linfar’s defense:

But please, PLEASE, let’s not destroy our nation in the name of “sending a message to the party”. As much as I disagree with the Superdelegates’ decision, they made their decision and we have a nominee. And as imperfect as Obama is, he’s still far better than McCain.

I am not so sure I agree with atdnext. Supporting a racist, elitist, friends with terrorists, out of touch bigot might be just a little more dangerous than supporting a real war hero whose patriotism NO ONE questions. Just maybe.

teese02a decided to say something too:

linfar and andrew sound like they are working for Obama. This group has always been about supporting Hillary. It is the Obama folks who need to leave. Linfar is wrong. You are only stating how you feel, not telling other’s to vote like you.

A provocative statement indeed. It is hard to make the case that supporting Obama is somehow supporting Hillary. When the Obama camp played it’s race card that wasn’t supporting Hillary. When they used blatant sexism that didn’t support her either. And when they used Republican talking points to smear her that definitely did not support Hillary. So just how is it that supporting Obama mysteriously also now means supporting Hillary?

You see, there is one camp that believes that the only way to reform the party is from the inside. And there is another camp entirely that believes that the only way the Democratic party will reform in any manner is if it is defeated soundly in the upcoming election. Call it a nuclear option.

Cam5maccrory well represents the second camp:

Reforming the party from within is wishful thinking. The only way a party reforms is by humiliating defeat, running off the rails, or egregious abuse in the opposition party.

If BO is elected, they will be in charge of the party…in fact are in charge of the party as we speak. Try to go talk to them about reform. Go talk to them about counting every vote…about changing the caucus system to transparent primaries. Tell them how you feel about it. I think we all know what the attitude will be.

For me…my only recourse is to withhold my support from the current party leadership and the BO party leadership. It’s a drop in the bucket but I don’t feel like I will be complicit in Republican style tactics…even if they worked.

Ronmaven echoed the sentiment and clarified it:

The defeat of Obama would be the best kick in the pants for the DNC we could possibly deliver. You want to CHANGE the party? Vote for McCain. You want the party to only get worse? Vote for O.

To some, NOT supporting Obama is the moral thing to do. Ccwarrior perhaps says it best:

easy decision for me I will sellout the party that SOLD me out. and I can live with that. I would never dis-respect my daughters, and vote for Obama after the treatment they witnessed from him doing this election …NEVER

But I have saved the best for last. Before I put it out there I want to make one thing very clear. I have nothing but the deepest respect for linfar. She has been a staunch Hillary supporter and she is such an excellent writer. I just happen to totally disagree with her about Obama and unfortunately may have to write things in the future that criticize her positions. It isn’t something I look forward to.

But having said that I think that unfortunately linfar grabbed a mug full of the Cult-Aide today because low and behold, she quotes from none other than the Prince of Darkness himself (Jonathan Singer) to make her point.

from mydd

Singer: Can you speak to the online supporters, the people online who are so strong for Hillary, who don’t want to see her leave, as a strong Hillary supporter yourself?

Sen. Chuck Schumer: As a strong Hillary support I say, look, I was for Hillary all the way. I was sort of the first Senator to endorse her and I guess I’ll be the last off the bandwagon, which I guess will be tomorrow. But, having said that, I would say to all of the people online, there’s too much at stake to sit this out, to be angry, to be bitter. There is too much at stake. A Supreme Court with more Alitos and Roberts. A continuation of the war in Iraq.

A failure to have a healthcare policy that helps people. A failure to have an energy policy that frees us from foreign oil. All these are such huge things that we have to do what Hillary said there, which
is overcome, not look back, even though there are lot’s of disappointments, but look forward.

I expected these bugaboos coming from Schumer. But a little reality never hurt anyone. Except Cultists I’m told. We hear the same nonsense you would expect from otherwise seemingly reasonable people. The trouble is that they think they will be able to bamboozle and scare us with their line of bullshit.

Everything Schumer mentions is something that the Congress controls, not the President. Supreme Court… confirmed by the Senate. Iraq War funding…. controlled by Congress. Health Care policy…. written by Congress. Energy policy… written by Congress.

SO WAKE UP! And stop letting these people get away with lying to you.

Yeah… It sure is going to be an interesting campaign season coming up…!!

Don’t forget to watch this on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmwBtPoBdRU